Comment on January 19th, 2007.
I think I head FoF live (the second of the two times I heard CM live), with the vocal parts, before I ever heard it on record. So I always felt that the Ah Um version was a kind of digest.
My favorite Mingus LP is The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady.
Comment on January 19th, 2007.
For some reason I came to Black Saint and Let My Children Hear Music later, and still haven't absorbed them as I have most of the others. My favorites apart from the Columbia albums are Blues and Roots, Pre-Bird (aka Mingus Revisited), Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus, and Tijuana Moods. Oh, and Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus.And The Great Concert. Have you heard that? It's a restored version of the 1964 Paris recording previously issued in incomplete and inferior form by Prestige. It's amazing.
Comment on January 20th, 2007.
I wonder how many other people Mingus was a gateway to jazz for. He was the first jazz artist I could "hear," and in a way he was the perfect one: he had one foot firmly in the past of Duke Ellington and the collective improvisation of the early New Orleans guys and the other foot in the squonk-bleep of the New Thing, but he was his own man all the way.
Comment on January 20th, 2007.
"Squonk-bleep"!
The downside of getting into jazz through Mingus is then having the excited question "Who else is like this?" And getting the answer, "Well, um, nobody, really."
Comment on January 21st, 2007.
True. Although (and it does pain me to say this) Wynton Marsalis almost had that kind of vibe going with his great '90s septet.
Comment on January 21st, 2007.
I'v never given Marsalis a fair chance -- likely never will -- because of the annoying effect of his reactionary pedagogy on the media and public's meagre perception of modern jazz -- an influence that admittedly doesn't seem to have had much of an influence on modern musicians, thankfully. I'm still irritated by the warping effect he seems to have had on the Ken Burns history.
Oddly, when I asked Ted who was like Mingus these days -- this was about twenty years ago -- he said, well, no one these days, but Carla Bley had some of the same virtues. I tried Bley and loved her stuff -- still do -- and I think she does have some of the peculiar compositional virtues of Mingus, and has an individual style; but I think most folks would be baffled by the comparison, since so many seem to hear Bley as a kind of lite Jazz (never getting past the tone of the surface, I guess).
Comment on January 23rd, 2007.
Ah Um is really the only Mingus album I know at all, but this original version is a revelation. Lots of rough edges, as you say. I obviously don't know Mingus as well as I ought, so thank you (both) for the album recs.
Comment on January 23rd, 2007.
In particular, if you like Mingus Ah Um, Mingus Revisited is almost sure to please.
Comment on January 23rd, 2007.
I think you were the one who turned me on to Mingus Ah Um and Blues and Roots, for which many grateful thanks. I think I tried Mingus Dynasty too but bounced off of it for some reason. I should try it again. Anyway, really enjoyed this version of "faubus" (and for your comments on it) so thanks for that too! By the way, have you delved into Pharaoh Sanders at all?
Comment on January 23rd, 2007.
Only a little. All I've heard is a couple of the late-sixties ones on Impulse. I like what I've heard.
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