Comment on February 26th, 2007.
Right on the money.
I'll tell you my favorite Threadgill story. In the '80s, a Ft. Worth billionaire, one of the Bass brothers who own most of the real estate in downtown, joined a weird cult and opened a club/cultural center called Caravan of Dreams. One of the tenets of the cult was that avant-garde jazz, as epitomized by Ornette Coleman, was one of humanity's highest cultural expressions, so they booked a lot of it. We'd drive up from Austin, take a deeply-discounted room in one of the downtown hotels, and go see the shows.
When they announced the Threadgill Sextette, we were in heaven; who knew this would ever come to this part of the world? So we got there, and the place was, predictably enough, empty. Well, almost empty. At the next table were two Ft. Worth businessmen and their big-hair blonde dates.
So onto the stage comes Threadgill. "This is Japan week in Ft. Worth," he said, "so we'll open the program with some solo flute impressions of Japan." And he proceeded to do about 15 minutes of free blowing. The folks next to us were getting restless.
After the solo stuff, the rest of the band filed on stage, and Threadgill introduced them. They swung into their first number, which was great. The folks at the next table were squirming. Loud applause from our table, and a couple of others, nothing from the quartet next to us.
The second piece started up, and about mid-way through, one of the guys turned to one of the blondes and said "C'mon honey, let's get outta here. I don't think they're ever gonna start singin'."
Incidentally, weren't there a couple of Air albums of cover material of Jelly Roll Morton and so on? I seem to remember them.
And you're right about its being appalling that their records are out of print, but I remember when RCA Nova started up, we got that boilerplate press release about this marking "a solid commitment on the part of our label to the best advances of contemporary jazz," which meant, as always, "we've made a lot of money this year and need to take a tax break," as well as meaning that they'd be carpet-bombing the indifferenet rock press fools with the albums, and they'd soon be available at "people's prices," first at the promo trade-in stores, then as cutouts.
What's really tragic is that Threadgill, who now lives in Sri Lanka, is over 70 years old and is still a "young Turk" of jazz. Ever hear his Columbia stuff? Some of it is stunning!
Comment on February 26th, 2007.
Ha!
I remember the existence of the Caravan of Dreams, and being mystified that it existed and flourished (as I imagined) in Fort Worth (nothing against Fort Worth, I just hadn't thought of it as a locus of avant garde jazz). I was a big Prime Time fan, and they had at least one album recorded live at the Caravan of Dreams that I never expect to see on cd (I mean, Coleman's amazing Of Human Feelings on Antilles has never had an American cd).
Air did do a couple of albums of stuff like "King Porter Stomp", or Threadgill's variations thereupon, yes. There was also a version of the band called New Air in the 1980s (with Pheeroan akLaff, I think, replacing Steve McCall), which was the first place I ever heard Cassandra Wilson and has to be very close to her first recording.
I have the Columbia Threadgill stuff -- if there is any Threadgill-led stuff I don't have, I'm not aware of it -- and it is amazing, as were the two albums he did for Pi several years ago. I think he's supposed to have something out this year. I didn't know he lived in Sri Lanka now, but I'm very aware of how old he is, and it frustrates me that he is only able to record albums every five or six years now. I don't think it's from lack of material or energy, I think it's been lack of support from any label, damnit. I fervently hope that there is some vault of live Threadgill recordings, at least.
Do you know about the album he did with three other flautists under the name Flute Force Four called Flutistry? Black Saint, 1997.
Comment on February 26th, 2007.
Sadly, I have never listened to Threadgill. I had a friend who was into him, but I wasn't in an adventurous jazz phase at the time. By the time I was, the stuff was long out of print. Thanks for this.
Destination: OUT! has done posts on both Threadgill and Air (the latter with a Jelly Roll Morton connection):
http://destination-out.com/?cat=39
The mp3s are down, but the posts and discussions are interesting.
Comment on February 27th, 2007.
I have no idea who owns the Caravan of Dreams label's masters at this point. They got in hot water when it was alleged -- and then retracted -- and then re-alleged that they had a secret compound in Brazil where they were doing eugenics and practicing infanticide. Their ultimate goal was to fill a spaceship with perfect humans (for once, this vision was multi-racial, but no less creepy) and colonize space.
I was at the Caravan's opening, sitting at a table with John Rockwell and some of my Austin friends in the very first row, seeing Ornette and Prime Time rocking out. You know, I think that album, at least, was on CD for a minute...
Never knew about that Black Saint album, either. Thanks!
Comment on February 27th, 2007.
Wow, I had no idea they were such interesting weirdos; all I knew was that they seemed to be into Ornette Coleman and Buckminster Fuller.
Richard, thanks very much for that link! I'm especially pleased to see such in-depth discussion of You Know the Number, which is one of my ten favorite albums, period.
Comment on April 9th, 2007.
Consider the song project justified, then. After hearing this, I got the two Threadgill albums that are on emusic -- and his daughter Pyeng's _wonderful_ Robert Johnson covers -- but I have no idea about where to find the rest of his work in this country.
Comment on April 9th, 2007.
Wow, I am delighted!
It's not easy to find much of Threadgill's work over here, either. I feel a little guilty at having offered his most melodic work, while you have probably bought some of his more recent, thornier work. The album "Spotted Dick Is Pudding" is from is long, long out of print (even though it was much better distributed at the time than anything he'd done before).
Comment on April 10th, 2007.
There is one album, on Sony, available from a classical music company here. I will order it when next I feel rich. And the thorny new bits are fine, too. Have you heard Pyeng's Robert Johnson thing? It is so much more original than any blues I have heard in decades.
Comment on April 10th, 2007.
For no good reason, I have never checked out any of Pyeng's music, but I will now.
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