henry threadgill, "spotted dick is pudding" (1988)

Posted on February 24th, 2007 by Scraps.
Categories: Music, Songs.

Song Project #13

I am unqualified to write about jazz or classical music, even more than I am unqualified to write about pop music. I am an uneducated enthusiast. I don't play an instrument, and can't speak of the technical details of music in any but the most vague and general terms. I can, of course, speak of the effect of music on me, but that's what most music writing does, and most of it is bad -- and the harder it tries, the worse it is. So tackling this at all is intimidating to me. But I love jazz (and classical, though that is outside the purview of the Song Project), and I have to try. I have no idea whether my approach is coherent. I hope that I improve as I learn to articulate why I like what I like.

Everyone who knows me knows how passionate I am about Henry Threadgill. I try not to express my tastes in music objectively, even the positive opinions that are unlikely to offend anyone, but in Threadgill's case I abandon all pretense of subjectivity. Henry Threadgill is the greatest figure in post-1970 jazz. He ought to be famous. That he is obscure, even among people with a fair knowledge of the history of jazz, is a testament not to a decline of jazz itself but to its decline in importance in American culture. He is the third in my personal triumvirate of jazz: Ellington, Mingus, Threadgill. They represent (to me) jazz that is compositional, complex, adventurous but melodic, the middle ground between the tradition and the avant garde. Each of them explore a wide range of styles, yet each of them has an unmistakable individual voice. When I unexpectedly hear music by them I don't know, I recognize the voice in an instant. In Threadgill's case, this can happen even when the music he's playing is not his own; I heard a piece from Hal Willner's Weird Nightmare Mingus tribute on the radio, and knew immediately that it had to be Threadgill.

Threadgill emerged from Chicago's avant garde scene in the 1970s; his best known work in that decade was leading the free-jazz trio Air (not the French pop electronica outfit). I like that stuff okay, but it's a bit loose and shaggy for my taste. He came into his own with his Sextet (or Sextett), which was actually a septet; I gather that he variously explained that the Sextet was the members who were not him, or that the two drummers constituted one instrument. The band was always Threadgill (saxophones and flute), two horns, two drummers, bass and cello (except on the first album, on which the cello was a piccolo bass). Their first three albums were on the tiny About Time label; the two great ones (When Was That? [1982] and Just the Facts and Pass the Bucket [1983]) were finally issued on cd a few years ago. He was then signed to RCA's Novus imprint, and recorded three albums, the first two (again) of which are great: You Know the Number [1987] and Easily Slip into Another World [1988]. BMG has allowed the albums to languish out of print for so long that Allmusic doesn't even have a picture for You Know the Number. It is (goddamnit) appalling that these albums are out of print. They are, or ought to be, touchstones for where jazz has been for the last thirty years. At any rate, "Spotted Dick Is Pudding" is the last track on side one of Easily Slip into Another World.

This is "Spotted Dick Is Pudding".

This song is like bursts of joy for me. From the beginning, it reminds me of the best parts of being in New Orleans jazz clubs -- or rather, since I loved this before I ever went to New Orleans, the joyful music I was lucky enough to find in New Orleans reminded me of this. I can scarcely point to all the moments of pleasure. A few that make me grin crazily: Frank Lacy's trombone jumping in with a huge growl at 1:33, Threadgill's solo beginning at 4:21, but especially the quick tootles at 4:51 ending with high bleats and the screams at 5:00, and the beautiful run of notes down and back up at 5:24. The alternating low and high bleats at 5:46, while the band stomps away behind him, Deidre Murray making long appreciative whoooaaaaa notes with her cello, makes me laugh out loud. I love the backing horns and bass going into double time at 6:10.

There is a musical theme that runs through the entire piece, but the band does so much more than comp over a set of changes. After the statement of the theme, trumpeter Rasul Siddik takes the lead at 0:30, but he doesn't really solo; he plays the theme, while the band varies behind him. Listen to what each of the other instruments is doing behind him for the next minute, sometimes chiming in for big climactic notes, sometimes spreading out into weird harmonies, while the melody remains straightforward (albeit through key changes).

Even once Lacy and Threadgill begin soloing away from the main melody (while the melody can always be heard in their soloing by implication), you can listen to the rest of the band this way. There is no turn-waiting; everyone is coloring every part of the song. I think Deidre Murray on cello and Fred Hopkins on bass are one of the most amazing combos in jazz history -- they led a few hard-to-find albums on their own -- and listening to them here is like a song in itself; yet it fits perfectly. The drums, too -- Pheeroan akLaff and Reggie Nicholson -- relentlessly play the rhythm while decorating the edges. They never do that tiresome cymbal-bashing that seems to be the default timekeeping for so many jazz drummers, nor do they ever leave the song without a solid rhythm. Through the double-time section they get further out; as they move toward the 6:50 point they are playing wildly around the rhythm, but it's still there in the interstices; they never leave the song unanchored. The drummers only get really unleashed at the end, starting at about 8:23, and by themselves for only about ten seconds, then pushing the song to its triumphant ascendant unison through the horns' climactic outburst, topped by Threadgill's exuberant final blast.

Every second of this piece is exciting to me. I never tire of the melody, the variations on it, the passion with which it's played by Threadgill and Lacy and Siddik. Everyone else is supportive but not merely so; you can follow any instrument through the song with interest. All of Threadgill's best compositions, like Mingus's, are assembled from fascinating pieces that somehow meld into something greater; I often can't hear how the pieces can logically fit together, but they do. In fact, this is truer on many other Threadgill pieces than it is here; the shape of this piece is inferable from most of the bits, while many of Threadgill's other pieces sound like they couldn't be rebuilt if somehow the pieces were to lose each other and need to be reassembled.

Which is to say, I confess that not all Threadgill sounds like this; this is his most accessible period, and possibly his most accessible song. I didn't choose it for that reason -- it is my favorite Threadgill song -- but those inclined to investigate further will find his subsequent work, with the Very Very Circus (in which the deep end is held down by two tubas) and beyond, to be thornier, less obviously melodic. But, I hasten to add, not irrationally or unmusically so; most of Threadgill's music has a logic unlike anyone else's, is all. And this is how much his music means to me: if I can introduce one person who ends up loving his music, I will consider the whole Song Project justified.

9 comments.

Ed Ward

Comment on February 26th, 2007.

Right on the money.

I'll tell you my favorite Threadgill story. In the '80s, a Ft. Worth billionaire, one of the Bass brothers who own most of the real estate in downtown, joined a weird cult and opened a club/cultural center called Caravan of Dreams. One of the tenets of the cult was that avant-garde jazz, as epitomized by Ornette Coleman, was one of humanity's highest cultural expressions, so they booked a lot of it. We'd drive up from Austin, take a deeply-discounted room in one of the downtown hotels, and go see the shows.

When they announced the Threadgill Sextette, we were in heaven; who knew this would ever come to this part of the world? So we got there, and the place was, predictably enough, empty. Well, almost empty. At the next table were two Ft. Worth businessmen and their big-hair blonde dates.

So onto the stage comes Threadgill. "This is Japan week in Ft. Worth," he said, "so we'll open the program with some solo flute impressions of Japan." And he proceeded to do about 15 minutes of free blowing. The folks next to us were getting restless.

After the solo stuff, the rest of the band filed on stage, and Threadgill introduced them. They swung into their first number, which was great. The folks at the next table were squirming. Loud applause from our table, and a couple of others, nothing from the quartet next to us.

The second piece started up, and about mid-way through, one of the guys turned to one of the blondes and said "C'mon honey, let's get outta here. I don't think they're ever gonna start singin'."

Incidentally, weren't there a couple of Air albums of cover material of Jelly Roll Morton and so on? I seem to remember them.

And you're right about its being appalling that their records are out of print, but I remember when RCA Nova started up, we got that boilerplate press release about this marking "a solid commitment on the part of our label to the best advances of contemporary jazz," which meant, as always, "we've made a lot of money this year and need to take a tax break," as well as meaning that they'd be carpet-bombing the indifferenet rock press fools with the albums, and they'd soon be available at "people's prices," first at the promo trade-in stores, then as cutouts.

What's really tragic is that Threadgill, who now lives in Sri Lanka, is over 70 years old and is still a "young Turk" of jazz. Ever hear his Columbia stuff? Some of it is stunning!

Scraps

Comment on February 26th, 2007.

Ha!

I remember the existence of the Caravan of Dreams, and being mystified that it existed and flourished (as I imagined) in Fort Worth (nothing against Fort Worth, I just hadn't thought of it as a locus of avant garde jazz). I was a big Prime Time fan, and they had at least one album recorded live at the Caravan of Dreams that I never expect to see on cd (I mean, Coleman's amazing Of Human Feelings on Antilles has never had an American cd).

Air did do a couple of albums of stuff like "King Porter Stomp", or Threadgill's variations thereupon, yes. There was also a version of the band called New Air in the 1980s (with Pheeroan akLaff, I think, replacing Steve McCall), which was the first place I ever heard Cassandra Wilson and has to be very close to her first recording.

I have the Columbia Threadgill stuff -- if there is any Threadgill-led stuff I don't have, I'm not aware of it -- and it is amazing, as were the two albums he did for Pi several years ago. I think he's supposed to have something out this year. I didn't know he lived in Sri Lanka now, but I'm very aware of how old he is, and it frustrates me that he is only able to record albums every five or six years now. I don't think it's from lack of material or energy, I think it's been lack of support from any label, damnit. I fervently hope that there is some vault of live Threadgill recordings, at least.

Do you know about the album he did with three other flautists under the name Flute Force Four called Flutistry? Black Saint, 1997.

Richard

Comment on February 26th, 2007.

Sadly, I have never listened to Threadgill. I had a friend who was into him, but I wasn't in an adventurous jazz phase at the time. By the time I was, the stuff was long out of print. Thanks for this.

Destination: OUT! has done posts on both Threadgill and Air (the latter with a Jelly Roll Morton connection):
http://destination-out.com/?cat=39

The mp3s are down, but the posts and discussions are interesting.

Ed Ward

Comment on February 27th, 2007.

I have no idea who owns the Caravan of Dreams label's masters at this point. They got in hot water when it was alleged -- and then retracted -- and then re-alleged that they had a secret compound in Brazil where they were doing eugenics and practicing infanticide. Their ultimate goal was to fill a spaceship with perfect humans (for once, this vision was multi-racial, but no less creepy) and colonize space.

I was at the Caravan's opening, sitting at a table with John Rockwell and some of my Austin friends in the very first row, seeing Ornette and Prime Time rocking out. You know, I think that album, at least, was on CD for a minute...

Never knew about that Black Saint album, either. Thanks!

Scraps

Comment on February 27th, 2007.

Wow, I had no idea they were such interesting weirdos; all I knew was that they seemed to be into Ornette Coleman and Buckminster Fuller.

Richard, thanks very much for that link! I'm especially pleased to see such in-depth discussion of You Know the Number, which is one of my ten favorite albums, period.

Andrew Brown

Comment on April 9th, 2007.

Consider the song project justified, then. After hearing this, I got the two Threadgill albums that are on emusic -- and his daughter Pyeng's _wonderful_ Robert Johnson covers -- but I have no idea about where to find the rest of his work in this country.

Scraps

Comment on April 9th, 2007.

Wow, I am delighted!

It's not easy to find much of Threadgill's work over here, either. I feel a little guilty at having offered his most melodic work, while you have probably bought some of his more recent, thornier work. The album "Spotted Dick Is Pudding" is from is long, long out of print (even though it was much better distributed at the time than anything he'd done before).

Andrew Brown

Comment on April 10th, 2007.

There is one album, on Sony, available from a classical music company here. I will order it when next I feel rich. And the thorny new bits are fine, too. Have you heard Pyeng's Robert Johnson thing? It is so much more original than any blues I have heard in decades.

Scraps

Comment on April 10th, 2007.

For no good reason, I have never checked out any of Pyeng's music, but I will now.

Leave a comment

Comments can contain some xhtml. Names and emails are appreciated but not required (emails aren't displayed).

*
To prove you're a person (not a spam script), type the security word shown in the picture.
Anti-Spam Image