Comment on April 29th, 2007.
I love that song so very much, and you've captured a lot of why. The second bridge is possibly my favorite part, if I had to choose. (But I can't choose...)
Comment on April 29th, 2007.
>I think it’s one of the twenty — ten — best rock songs ever made.
What are the other nine?
Comment on April 29th, 2007.
That three notes spread evenly over four beats is called a triple T I believe.
Comment on April 29th, 2007.
Adam, I thought you might be the first one here.
Fred, I don't know! It'd take a long time to chop the list down. I'm pretty sure "Rags and Bones" makes the cut, though.
Christina, I misspoke. The three notes are played on the beat, it's just that the sequence is only three notes repeated. If the notes are A, B, C, it looks like this:
A B C A B C A B C A B C 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
etc. I thought it was hemiola, but I looked it up and that's more specific.
Comment on April 29th, 2007.
Hm, this theme doesn't seem to like the pre tag.
Comment on April 29th, 2007.
It'd be on my top 20. Dunno that it would be on my top 10. Thanks, Scraps, for reminding me. It's seriously, and sadly, been months since it came up in rotation.
Comment on April 29th, 2007.
As you & i have mentioned before, it's also my favorite punk song as well.
Comment on April 30th, 2007.
I am nearly certain that what you are referring to as "low guitar" (the instrument that brings back the main riff each time) is in fact high bass; Rob Wright is one monster bass player. (If you disagree with me, I'll cite some evidence.) Remember that NoMeansNo is what used to be called a "power trio" (one guitar, bass, drums); the rare instances where it sounds like two guitars (or two basses) seems to be overdubs.
No, it's not hemiola (persistent triple meter against duple meter), because there's no change of meter and no triplet feel. I'm not sure it has a name, but it's an effective trick (by Zeppelin among others).
My shorter comment (I could, and have, written at length about NoMeansNo) is that "Rags and Bones" is one of their greatest songs; but I don't rate it above, oh, say, "Sex Mad" or "Mary (The Last)" or "Dark Ages," and my personal vote in the end would be for "Dark Ages," the first song of theirs I ever heard.
Last question: what makes this song "punk"? As opposed to "hard rock" or "blues rock" or even "metal"? Maybe I just lack "punk sensibility."
Comment on April 30th, 2007.
this isn't my favorite song of their's but i was a big fan for many years. i saw them open up for the circle jerks in san antonio, texas before their first record 'sex mad' was released. i made a nuisance of myself down at the local record store hogwild as a result of my uncomprehending efforts to purchase nonmeansno's first record that hadn't even been recorded yet, let alone released in the states. 'sex mad/the more you have/the more you want'.
Comment on April 30th, 2007.
Don, I wondered whether it was bass. The credits aren't specific (naturally).
"Dark Ages" is my second favorite.
It's punk because I said "punk" when I pointed to it. More elaborately, it's punk because NoMeansNo identified as a punk band, were listened to by a punk audience, were on Alternative Tentacles, and because it isn't clearly not punk.
Comment on April 30th, 2007.
Rich, you might know this already, but some pre-Sex Mad stuff did get released as a cassette (and later, I think, a cd) called Mama. I didn't find it that interesting, though. (And I think Sex Mad is pretty great.)
Comment on April 30th, 2007.
Yes, Mama is out on CD.
Sex Mad was my introduction to Nomeansno- I've never been that much of a punkhead, really, but some friends in high school gave me a tape with most of Sex Mad on one side, and Negativland's "Escape From Noise" on the other. That was a combo. But Wrong and 0+2=1 are what really got me into Nomeansno. I was really glad I got the chance to see them play the Starry Plough in Berkeley a few years ago.
Comment on April 30th, 2007.
Yes, Mama was reissued on CD. I have it, and probably also the cassette somewhere. It's drums and bass only, and is far less interesting than the string of albums (Sex Mad through 0+2=1 on Alternative Tentacles featuring Andy Kerr (whose name appears nowhere on the albums) on guitar.
I'll punt on the punk business, then.
Comment on April 30th, 2007.
Did Kerr leave after 0+2=1? That would explain why the albums after that aren't that great.
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